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Posted - 2011.10.27 16:36:00 -
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Buzzmong wrote:Oh, so that's pretty much confirmation that the new BC's are turret slot heavy then?
*sigh*
I was so hoping they'd be limited to 5 or 6 to differentiate them more from BS's in a more obvious way rather than just having a PG/CPU limit imposed upon them.
I assume you mean other than being hella fast and paper thin...
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Posted - 2011.10.27 16:38:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:SFM Hobb3s wrote:Pattern Clarc wrote:CCP Guard wrote:Pattern Clarc wrote:Looks good, I count only seven hard points though... D: How do you think it will fare against your Tornado?  Given our military alliance with the gallente it would be undiplomatic of me to choose favourites. None the less we expect these two ships to be more than a match for there caldari and amarr counter parts. XD o/ Pattern. Not sure If I ever thanked you for adding my ship to your collection, but if on some slim chance mine ends up being the Naga, I propose we have a duel! =) Deviant art - Intrepid class errr thats more of a concord ship than anything.
Agreed. If they ever redesign Concord ships I'd vote for that style.
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Posted - 2011.10.27 16:47:00 -
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David Xavier wrote:CCP Guard wrote:Pattern Clarc wrote:Looks good, I count only seven hard points though... D: How do you think it will fare against your Tornado? I don't want to be negative but It will die a horrible death while trying to get into blaster range. Also your drawing looks a thousand times better than the presented ship. Ur art guys should have used this
It's going to boil down to two things (set up variations aside).
1: Did the Talos warp in on top of the Tornado? If yes, the win goes to the Talos.
2: Is the Tornado fast enough to keep outside of the Talos web range. If yes, win goes to Tornado.
I looked at that other ship you linked earlier. It does indeed look very Gallante, but it does so by taking the least appealing aspects of Gallante design. So if you like the melted lumpy look it's a classic.
The Talos takes some of the best (and most underused) aspects of Gallante design (typified by the Megathron) and slims it up to make it visually exemplify speed and an "in your face" attitude.
Overall I'm very pleased with it. I will also enjoy popping them with a stealth bomber immensely. 
To kill the enemy and break their toys!
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Posted - 2011.10.27 16:59:00 -
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Princess Bride wrote:I am not a fan of the looks of this ship. It looks like it has engines bolted on sideways to the top of the hull and the nose reminds me of a paper airplane.
Loved the Tornado. Do not love the Talos.
I'm guessing you are talking about the weapons mounts? I kind of expected them to be a bit over sized on some of these ships to accommodate the Large weapons.
The nose is reminiscent of a sleek version of a Megathron bow.
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Posted - 2011.10.27 17:11:00 -
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Now if only we could get a frigate or destroyer variant designed along the lines of the Firbolg it would elevate gallante ship design to a sort of neo-classic retro style.
Power and speed personified.
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Posted - 2011.10.27 18:25:00 -
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Mors Sanctitatis wrote:The original design has MUCH better proportion. The remake has made it look too chunky and turned the overall shape into a blob.
The front isn't as defined, and the same with the rear of the ship. The nose is now too fat, the extra engines nacelles (four instead of two on the original) make the rear end too fat and heavy. The additional front mounting hardpoints are overdone, making the nose flat and pug-like (a horrible thing) compared to the original.
Please fix it. You followed the Tornado's original intent much more precisely. Do the same for the Talos.
The original design was also a very lightly armed destroyer/surveillance vessel.
The front logically would have to be thickened to support the over sized gun mounts (the original model had no hard points on the nose section). Thicker does not mean "pug-like". The same goes for the more powerful look of the rear and losing the (admittedly nice) wingy bits back there on the original.
For a design that took a fast Destroyer and scaled it up to a fast Battle Cruiser with over sized guns, I'd say the changes look pretty logical. Perhaps they should make it a point to emphasis that it is "based on" the original design, but scaled up to better fit it's role in game.
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Posted - 2011.10.28 16:34:00 -
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Rails should actually work very well on this ship, with the web bonus serving as frigate defense (supplemented by it's drones).
I think that we will see both Blaster and Rail fits commonly, although it will take awhile for people to get out of their Blaster fetishes.
There will certainly be times when the web/blaster combo will be highly effective, either in conjuction with plenty of EW (but not so much in conjuction with remote repping), or in hot drop or gank situations where you can be sure to be right on top of your opponent immediately and need maximum firepower on target quickly.
But for your average fleet engagement you will be much better served by rails. In this case use the web to pin frigates trying to hold you down and kill them with rails and drones. Use your speed to keep range and keep transversal up, warp out the moment you take damage.
In both cases (other than very long range) a flight of light EW drones may be a very attractive tactic as well as they tend to be somewhat disproportionately effective.
To kill the enemy and break their toys!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
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